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riddleone
Gold Dot

USA
21 Posts

Posted - 03/19/2004 :  3:23:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All, rightty-Just opening up a discussion about classic piecing and their influence on the new and mid-generation writers. Who put up your favorite classic burners on the northside, Hall of Fame/wall of sin and the southwest/southsides? I personally, like the Midwest masters piece by the Feds at the hall of fame and a small but cool ass piece from GTC crew from 18th and pilsen. Of course there more-what do you think?

riddleone

DaBelush
Gold Dot

25 Posts

Posted - 03/19/2004 :  4:22:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought Kuaze's burners were always hot sh*t.

Well then, I guess you're really up sh*t creek.
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SEZONE CAS
Gold Dot

USA
26 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2004 :  2:26:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i always liked KUAZE's sh*t, ANTCK, DEEP, AGES, AGENT...man..thers a whole lot im forgetting..NESTOR had some dope sh*t too..3XD Crew..UFG..i still remember when J4F DESTROYED the Edens...dam...the good 'ol days..

I'm Rick James BITCH.
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Rem 311
Gold Dot

USA
131 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2004 :  2:19:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well Being That I'm an Old School Graff Writer from The 1980's and Not from The Chicago Metro Area(I'm From New York City)!!.Graff Does have It's Roots in The Mainstream Today W. The New Generation of Writers that are Out Now!!.I Myself Prefer to Piece than to Bomb Especially If you're Out Here Doing It on The Illegal Tip Like I Sometimes Do!!.I Think That Chicago has a Very Good History as far as The Graff Scenes Concerned,Writers Like DENZ,TRIXTER,D-ZINE,TAKE 2 and Others are The 1's Who Have Paved The Way for The New Millenium Generation of Graff Writers of Today as The Same Goes for New York as Well,Old School Writers Like Myself,COPE 2.CAVS,SENTO,SNATCH,STEM(YNN),PRIZ(CAC),RAB(CAC),SLIN 2,RIZE(TNB),T KID 170(TNB),QUIK,MIN 1,
DEMER,LEROY 444,TABE,VET,SHAMS Among Others!!.The New Generation of Old School Writers Must Always Remember that You Gotta Respect The Old School.Always Cause Were The 1's That Made The Path for you to Follow Along!!

Be True to The Game and The Game Will Be True to You!!
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FLASH ABC
Administrator (NYC Fat Cap)

USA
6986 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2004 :  3:27:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit FLASH ABC's Homepage  Reply with Quote
DZINE???????? NEVER SAW AN ILLEGAL PIECE FROM HIM. AND I BOMBED IN THE 80'S. JUST ASK CHUMBLY WHAT HE THINKS OF DZINE?. IN NEW YORK AND IN CHICAGO YOUR RECOGNIZE BY YOUR PEERS BY WHAT YOU DO ILLEGALLY.



LOTS OF CHATS WERE BOMBING THE TRAINS IN THE 80'S. FIRST ONE I HEARD OF WAS PILOT IN 1981 HE HIT THE YARDS AT KEDZIE. THATS WHEN HE LIVE BY ROOSEVELT. SEEN-ABC WAS A MAD ARTIST WHO INFLUENCED BOTH TRIXSTER AND TAKE. ONCE THOSE 2 WENT OFF ON THERE OWN THEY BECAME KINGS IN THEIR OWN WAY. TRIXSTER INFUENCED THE FEDS AND TAKE WAS A BIG INFULENCE ON THE MAD CREW. I MET DENZ AND SLANG IN 85 AND LOOK AT THE WORK THEY HAVE DONE AFTERWARDS. JUST TRYING TO PUT SOME PIONEERS OUT THERE. I WOULD MENTION N____ S_____ BUT HE OWES ME RENT MONEY.

Edited by - FLASH ABC on 03/23/2004 3:27:46 PM
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H-rocks
Gold Dot

52 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2004 :  5:22:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rem 311

Well Being That I'm an Old School Graff Writer from The 1980's and Not from The Chicago Metro Area(I'm From New York City)!!.Graff Does have It's Roots in The Mainstream Today W. The New Generation of Writers that are Out Now!!.I Myself Prefer to Piece than to Bomb Especially If you're Out Here Doing It on The Illegal Tip Like I Sometimes Do!!.I Think That Chicago has a Very Good History as far as The Graff Scenes Concerned,Writers Like DENZ,TRIXTER,D-ZINE,TAKE 2 and Others are The 1's Who Have Paved The Way for The New Millenium Generation of Graff Writers of Today as The Same Goes for New York as Well,Old School Writers Like Myself,COPE 2.CAVS,SENTO,SNATCH,STEM(YNN),PRIZ(CAC),RAB(CAC),SLIN 2,RIZE(TNB),T KID 170(TNB),QUIK,MIN 1,
DEMER,LEROY 444,TABE,VET,SHAMS Among Others!!.The New Generation of Old School Writers Must Always Remember that You Gotta Respect The Old School.Always Cause Were The 1's That Made The Path for you to Follow Along!!

Be True to The Game and The Game Will Be True to You!!



it's cool to know that brotha's from the Mecca recognize the contributions of Chicago...yo' Rem 311, my boy Dough says what up!

I'm surrounded by hate, but I still love home...
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Rem 311
Gold Dot

USA
131 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2004 :  6:59:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
YO H-ROCKS!!,
WHEN YOU RUN INTO DOUGH AGAIN,TELL HIM THAT I SAID WHATS UP AND TELL HIM TO HOLLA AT ME TOO,MY E MAIL IS AT HOTMAIL:

Rem311@HotMail.Com TELL HIM TO E MAIL ME SO THAT I CAN SEND HIM SOME FLICKS PAL!!

LATER AND A BIG WHATS UP TO TAKE 2, ALL DUE RESPECT TO CHI TOWN TOO!!

Be True to The Game and The Game Will Be True to You!!
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CHUMBLY0001
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5892 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2004 :  03:59:12 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
WHAT UP REM311, PEACE OUT TO U AND THE BROTHERS FROM NYC. AS FOR D-ZINE I WONT EVEN GO THERE. ITS NOT WORTH THE CHAT.
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riddleone
Gold Dot

USA
21 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2004 :  12:27:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dzine, Dzine,Dizne-Sheesh, what could I say about him, without people wanting to skin him alive? I'm no big fan of Dzine's art, but I will say one thing, he did do a few illegel pieces. I know for a fact that he did some illegle pieces along side me and Rascal under the Pulaski bridge, near the intersection of the expressway on 41st. I know he was primarily a big-mouth type of guy, as he always had some type of assanine critism to give, even when you didn't ask him for any; he used to critize my work all the time and I'd just ignore it-he's just one of those kind of people. Back in my Icepak days, I remember he really used to get under Zore's skin. The thing about Dzine is that he went belly up for the "artsy farsty sh*t." He excelled at that so-called abstract art. I personally don't belive in absract art, becuase it takes no skill to throw paint around then bullsh*t and say it symblolizes things. Put simply-art requires skill-if there is no skill involved, then its not art; That's what I think anyway. He loved Vulcans work from New York and he was especially obssesed with Michael Basquate and Keith Harring- I mean no disrespect to them, but their fame as real graffiti artists I don't agree with, since they did not do graffiti art in the hip-hop sense-with wildstyles or graff oriented charachters. Once again, put simply, they were not graffiti artists! However, they certainly capitalized on it! I think this is what Dzine was trying to do, or actaully has done to some extent. I do give him credit for some success-I have seen some of his abstrsct designs on some dresses at Marshal Fields once. Lastly, I know some writers were jealous of his success, if thats what you want to call it. Not all writers are genuine ghetto-spawned artists-many have these goals of commercial success wanting to use graffiti as a launch point. The thing here is that eventhough his reputation eminates sell out-He shouldn't be forgotten in Chicago's graffiti history-keep in mind, not all history is good you know!

riddleone
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commonsense
Gold Dot

USA
3 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2004 :  3:34:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
luv your sh*t riddle but yo gotta be high. dzine is wack thats it. he is a sellout bigtime!!*** & i never seen a illgal dzine piece ever!punks lik dat must be forgotten. they give a bad name to tru writerz.didnt big pun want to kick his azz-or was that a rumor im newskool idont know.

commomsense
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RudeRockOner DC5
Pink Dot

USA
1074 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2004 :  9:42:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

No comment.................

"lets Paint!"
"Defconfive 2004"
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KOOLAIDE KILLA
Pink Dot

Vatican City
2012 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2004 :  02:51:34 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeah kuaze iz down wit my team now (s3 crew) & he would show me flix of dem walls. dat n***a iz madd nice wit it but he slowed down a lil bit afta he got married & had sum seeds now he'z a soccer mom haha but damn wish i wuz do'n sum thangs back than......

omen 74
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CHUMBLY0001
Pink Dot

5892 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2004 :  05:44:29 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
HEY RIDDLE I HERE U. HE IS PART OF GRAFF HISTORY, EITHER GOOD OR BAD. BUT WHAT CAN U DO, HE STILL A SELL OUT. I KNOW A LOT OF GRAFF WRITERS THAT MADE IT BIG. BUT THEY STILL HOLD GRAFF CLOSE TO THERE HEARTS. NEVER FORGETTING THERE ROOTS.
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Rem 311
Gold Dot

USA
131 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2004 :  09:58:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
CHUMBLY,ARE YOU AN OLD SCHOOL CHICAGO WRITER?,I'D LIKE TO HOOK UP W. YOU AND SEE WHAT WE CAN BUILD ON,MAYBE WE CAN TRADE FLICKS BUDDY!!.I HAVE A LOT OF OLD SCHOOL NEW YORK SUBWAY CAR FLICKS THAT YOU MAY WANNA SEE,GOTTA MAKE NEGS OUTTA THEM CAUSE I LOST MY ORIGINAL NEGS TO THEM BACK IN THE DAY WHEN I BOUNCED AROUND A LOT TOO!!,BUT LEST SEE WHAT HAPPENS!!

Be True to The Game and The Game Will Be True to You!!
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FLASH ABC
Administrator (NYC Fat Cap)

USA
6986 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2004 :  10:42:10 AM  Show Profile  Visit FLASH ABC's Homepage  Reply with Quote
thanks riddle. I for one wanted to know if dzine ever did anything.Everyone else has told me he did not. but as a fellow puerto rican and old SKOOLER i wanted to know. I notice his walls stay up forever. i do like the one on the boys club I HAVE A DREAM.thanks for the history and know on with the show. REM311 IVE GOT SOME OF CHUMBLYS OLD SKOOL FLICKS AND HE DOESNT GET THEM BACK UNTIL HE HAS 30 DAYS WITHOUT A DRINK. LOL
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Rem 311
Gold Dot

USA
131 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2004 :  11:08:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
LOL!! HEY FLASH!!,

ARE YOU DOWN TO TRADE SOME FLICKS W. ME TOO,MY MAN DOUGH,I DON'T KNOW WHATS UP W. HIM,BUT HE WAS HOOKING ME UP W. SOME FREIGHTS OF US ALONG W. SOME OF THAT OL SCHOOL CHI TOWN FLAVAS TOO!!.HOLLA AT ME ON MY E MAIL AND LETS SEE IF WE CAN BUILD ON SOMETHING

E-Mail:AlexandFarr7@AOL.Com

PEACE OUT HOMEBOY!!

Be True to The Game and The Game Will Be True to You!!
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Rem 311
Gold Dot

USA
131 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2004 :  11:09:32 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
SORRY FLASH,I MEANT TO SAY "FREIGHTS OF HIS STUFF"!!
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Cobalt sixty
Gold Dot

142 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2004 :  2:28:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the only DZINE illegal roof top I seen was in late 89/90 it was passin the blue line on the douglas branch..passing 18th

that must 've been up for years! it said DZN and looked alot like it wqas done with rollers but they were kinda block buster letters
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Cobalt sixty
Gold Dot

142 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2004 :  2:31:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
does anyone know who did the piece of this vaughn bode charcter in Pilsen off of i think Leavitt asnd 21pl they buffed it but it must've been there from like 86 til 93!! it was faded but still there it was a chick with long hair and big eyes!!!

it was on a private building which su[prised me that it stood up so long?
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riddleone
Gold Dot

USA
21 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2004 :  2:43:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cobalt-I did a girl bode' around 23rd and levett in pilsen in March of 1997. If it is a girl with blonde hair, I think that charachter might be mines, but I can't believe it would be still up. At the time, the ganbangers chased us out of there, so I never went back.

riddleone
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kid crash
Pink Dot

3599 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2004 :  6:21:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
....damn those bangers bro....they do not like us..........they might be jealous....of our raw skills///////

kid crash
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